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Gnoll
Feb 6, 2015 21:44:15 GMT
Post by Salient on Feb 6, 2015 21:44:15 GMT
Gilgamesh wanted to make a Gnoll, but 1 LA and 2 racial HD is too steep a price for what little you get. I offered to Homebrew an alternative using Evolutionist. The creator of the Evolutionist class had this to say about making base races: So with that as the premise, I propose the following: GnollStrength +4, Constitution +2, Intelligence -2, Charisma -2. Size Medium. Humanoid (Gnoll). A gnoll's base land speed is 30 feet. +2 natural armor bonus. A gnoll has a +1 bonus on all strength-based checks and skill checks. Darkvision out to 60 ft. Automatic Languages: Gnoll. Bonus Languages: Common, Draconic, Elven, Goblin, Orc. Level Adjustment: +1 This works out to the following mutations: Base stats: Strength +2, Constitution +2, Intelligence -2, Charisma -2
Mutation 1: Powerful Form (+2 STR, +1 to all STR-based checks and skill checks) Mutation 2: Natural Armor (+2 NA) Mutation 3: Darkvision (30 ft) Mutation 4: Darkvision (60 ft) EDIT: changed to be LA +1 to reflect feedback
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Gnoll
Feb 7, 2015 22:28:58 GMT
Post by NineOfSpades on Feb 7, 2015 22:28:58 GMT
This seems like an awful lot to get for a +0 LA race. I mean, comparing these guys to half orcs, which fill a similar racial niche of the big strong tough guys, and this gnoll fix just completely beats the Orcs in every respect.
I would suggest taking advantage of LA buyoff and Monster HD retraining as a means to pay for the gnoll race
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Gnoll
Feb 7, 2015 23:22:46 GMT
Post by Gilgamesh on Feb 7, 2015 23:22:46 GMT
What about at LA+1?
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Gnoll
Feb 7, 2015 23:26:33 GMT
Post by Salient on Feb 7, 2015 23:26:33 GMT
Edited to reflect this request.
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Gnoll
Feb 17, 2015 11:36:08 GMT
Post by Gaiyamato on Feb 17, 2015 11:36:08 GMT
Honestly, with LA buyoff and Racial HD retraining a character could begin with the standard Gnoll with 1 Racial HD and no LA plus 4 class levels. The Gnoll is a good race with good ability score bonuses, darkvision and 1 natural armor.
What you have done is both improved the gnoll and made it even easier to take without any real negatives at all. It should be either 1LA+2RHD or 2 LA IMO.
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